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AIR FRANCE ECONOMY CLASS SEAT REVIEW - BOEING 777-300ER

Date :   21 April 2013

Review by : A Price (France)

One of the middle seats, disgraceful for a flag carrier. Almost as bad as Emirates 777 - the only difference is the footrest on AF. Never again.

AIR FRANCE PREMIUM VOYAGEUR CLASS SEAT REVIEW - AIRBUS A380

Date :   24 February 2013

Review by : G Shaw (USA)

The Premier Voyageur cabin is intimate in size but spacious. While the seats in this class are far superior to those in coach class, there are drawbacks. The fixed seat shell is marvelous as passengers do not encroach into other passengers' space, but the recline mechanism could be improved to provide greater comfort. I fly the LAX-CDG route annually and it is annoying that on every trip, the passenger sitting behind me kept their window shades open or kept their reading light on, throughout the flight. There should be a period during the flight when passengers should be able to sleep. The service, as always (at least in my experience flying AF), is superior. The food can be questionable but I will likely order the special meals for my next trip, which appear to be superior to the standard meals offered.

AIR FRANCE ECONOMY CLASS SEAT REVIEW - BOEING 777

Date :   15 February 2013

Review by : R North (UK)

Flight from Paris to Hong Kong. The seats were hard, narrow and most uncomfortable even for a short flight, 12 hours was torture!!

AIR FRANCE ECONOMY CLASS SEAT REVIEW - BOEING 747-400

Date :   15 February 2013

Review by : Rodolphe Paccard (France)

CDG-MEX, seat 53K. It's in the narrower part of the aircraft at the rear so there are only 2 seats instead of 3 on the windows side. IFE box was under the seat in front of me but to I was not too bothered by it. The seat is away from the cabin wall and this gives you several windows and a sensation of space. You get your own storage space between the seat and the wall which can also serve as a table. Although it will be shared with the person behind you. Getting things in and out of it means removing anything sitting on top. The IFE was okay, selection of programs was fair. However to select anything on the screen you had to press hard which makes you shake the seat in front of you. I had to endure that from the lady behind me. Food and drink service was very good for Economy.

AIR FRANCE PREMIUM ECONOMY CLASS SEAT REVIEW - BOEING 777

Date :   22 January 2013

Review by : Bob Turner (USA)

Air France Premium Economy. Downside a bit expensive upgrade, no toilets but they didn't seem to object to us using first class toilets. Those who put down these seats have not sat in Air France economy - which is horrible. I am only 5'6" but the economy seats have no padding.

AIR FRANCE ECONOMY CLASS SEAT REVIEW - AIRBUS A380

Date :   10 January 2013

Review by : C Matlack (France)

I traveled in the lower-level economy cabin, in the last row of the cabin. The seats barely reclined at all. I complained to the hostess, as this was an overnight transatlantic flight. She informed me that all seats in the economy cabin had the same pitch. Needless to say I spent a very uncomfortable night.

AIR FRANCE ECONOMY CLASS SEAT REVIEW - BOEING 777

Date :   24 December 2012

Review by : D Wheeler (New Zealand)

Flew AF economy HK to Paris. Never again! I'm not a small person at 6ft tall and 120kg and to me it was torture. I never got comfortable in all 13 hours 40 minutes of flying. Very narrow seat, poor recline and 2 empty seats next to me I could not take advantage of because the armrests were fixed! The TV was quite blurry too.

AIR FRANCE ECONOMY CLASS SEAT REVIEW - BOEING 747-400

Date :   24 December 2012

Review by : R Le Goff (Australia)

We paid a lot to travel Voyageur class which is Air France's version of Premium Economy. Do not believe the video on the AF website and do not believe the hype. The seats are narrow and have been designed so badly, that you have no chance of a restful flight. You just slide down and your knees bang into the seat in front. You get plastic cutlery and cups and same food as economy. Do not pay for this class of fare. There is very little difference to their AF economy class. The service is the same, non-existent. Makes me ashamed to hold a French passport. Never again.

AIR FRANCE ECONOMY CLASS SEAT REVIEW - BOEING 777

Date :   18 September 2012

Review by : D Wheeler (USA)

I literally thought it was a joke - that's how uncomfortable this seat (and hence the entire trip) was. I'm not exactly skinny but neither am I obese yet this seat was so narrow it cut off circulation to my thighs. To make matters worse, my shoulders and upper arms kept bumping up against the passenger to my right (I was in an aisle seat) to the point where I finally had to get up and pace around the plane to relieve the discomfort. Throughout the entire trip from Miami to Paris, I was lucky if I was able to sleep for 20 minutes. I arrived at my destination in the Middle East feeling like I'd been run over by a truck.

AIR FRANCE PREMIUM ECONOMY CLASS SEAT REVIEW - BOEING 777-200ER

Date :   18 September 2012

Review by : Donald Hamilton (UK)

In their Premium Voyageur cabin Air France has achieved the remarkable feat of making providing a seat which is uncomfortable for both my wife (5'6" and of medium build) and myself (6'4" and of heavier build). They are hard. The recline is very limited when it works and the fixed head rest is too low to support the head of anyone with any height. These problems were compounded by the failure to carry extension belts which fit the short seat-belts fitted on the second and third of the three rows (I was able to use the belt on the A319 on the connecting flight without difficulty). I therefore had to be transferred to the front row. This has a bulkhead which diminishes the value of the extra leg-room when the seat is upright: when I tried to use the (limited) recline , an extension came out which pinned my feet to the bulkhead. In short this cabin is over-priced, offering less than the preferred seats in the Air Canada Economy cabin

AIR FRANCE ECONOMY CLASS SEAT REVIEW - BOEING 777

Date :   23 October 2011

Review by : B Knight (Australia)

AF seats narrow and hard and it was very difficult to get comfortable. Also, I have short legs and the absence of a footrest is a real problem - I had to place cushions on the floor & place my feet on them to ensure adequate circulation in my legs. My impression from 6 SIN-CDG legs is that the planes need a cabin refit with more comfortable seats. On the other hand, I would rate AF ahead of Qantas's mediocre international economy offerings.

AIR FRANCE ECONOMY CLASS SEAT REVIEW - A330

Date :   23 October 2011

Review by : R Kivett (UK)

I flew in the A380 going from CDG to IAD and then came back in the A330 ORD to CDG. The 380 seat was spacious with a large screen while the A330 was cramped and had the tiniest of screens. I gave such a poor rating for the recline due to when the person reclines completely in front, you can't eat easily, get out of your seat, see the TV screen very well or feel like you can breathe. I didn't feel comfortable putting my seat all way back in consideration of the person behind. The seats also lead to people behind pulling on your seat when they try and get up and down from these cramped positions. I will try and avoid this aircraft in the future on AF.

AIR FRANCE ECONOMY CLASS SEAT REVIEW - BOEING 777-300

Date :   23 October 2011

Review by : R Ireland (UK)

11hr flight from Paris Orly to La Reunion. By far the narrowest seat I have ever sat in. I think it was even narrower than the seats on Ryanair, which is a budget airline. Legs were pressed right into back of the seat in front and when they reclined it was game over. Never again. It is strange as I use Air France on European flights as well and the seats on the smaller aircraft are wider and with more legroom!

AIR FRANCE ECONOMY CLASS SEAT REVIEW - BOEING 777-300

Date :   20 September 2011

Review by : A Dewar (Australia)

I was seated 24K. 3 seats jammed in behind a row of 2 seats. 24J had minimum leg room, and the large gentleman had to sit at an angle, with legs in the aisle, and third of his upper body in my area. Worst flight of my life.

AIR FRANCE ECONOMY CLASS SEAT REVIEW - A340-300

Date :   5 September 2011

Review by : Suzanne Cooper (Canada)

Very uncomfortable flight; I wouldn't travel on Air France again. With the seats in front inclined, it was impossible to get out of the seats. All and all, I wouldn't choose Air France again.

Air France Boeing 777 Economy Class Seat review   - 29 July 2011 by Juliet Brumlik (USA)

I am a small person, 5'3" and 110 pounds. For me, my seat was the smallest airline seat I've ever seen. Eleven and a half hours of misery.

Air France Boeing 777-300 Economy Class Seat review   - 29 July 2011 by Joe English (Ireland)

Aisle seat at emergency exit, so legroom not a problem. Seat is the narrowest I have ever sat on - perhaps it is slightly narrower than all the other economy seats to incorporate the tray table in the armrest? Also the hardest seat I ever experienced. How an airline can expect anyone to sit on this hard seat for twelve hours is beyond me. Given cramped seating and the harness of the seat I will never choose Air France for intercontinental travel again.

Air France B777-300 / B777-200 Economy Class Seat review   - 6 April 2011 by M Matsuda (UK)

CDG to HKG with B777-300 and HKG to CDG with B777-200. Economy class on the day to HKG from CDG was full. Very cramped cabin with 3x4x3 configuration. The seat on the aircraft was like wooden bench. I felt that the seat on B777-200 on the way back to CDG was a bit better. Has AF improved the seat? Either way, their economy seat is far from satisfactory. Also, on the way back to CDG, they ran out of food available between first and second meal. If you take a long haul flight with AF, make sure that you take some food with you, just like the time you take a budget airline.

Air France A320 Economy Class Seat review   - 22 November 2010 by Massimo Zanasi (Finland)

CDG-LIS on A320. Very little legroom for a 6.2 ft. tall. One of the worst experiences, compared to most European airlines.

Air France Boeing 777-300 Economy Class Seat review   - 27 October 2010 by Debra Angeloff (USA)

I was stunned to find the seats so miserably uncomfortable for an intercontinental flight. The seats were extremely narrow, short, and very hard, with very little leg room. It became impossible for me to get comfortable in any way to be able to relieve pressure on my legs, or sleep on my flight. There was absolutely zero room for anyone to get out of his/her seat to go to the restroom without having the entire row get up as well to let them out. I will never fly with Air France again because of this level of discomfort.

Air France Boeing 777-200 Premium Economy Class Seat review   - 23 October 2010 by John Whiting (UK)

Premium economy Paris-Osaka for 11 hours. I sat at the front of the premium economy cabin. Pros- more legroom than the standard premium economy seats. Cons the tray tables are in the arms and not as large as the normal seats which makes working on a laptop a little less convenient. Overall I would certainly choose this seat again. I had a day flight both ways so did not try to sleep. Seat was comfortable for the duration and I did not find it too hard. As I was working most of the flight I didn't use the recline much but it seemed OK. The laptop power is standard 240V and either a standard French type or US plug will fit. It is limited in power and my laptop, which is fairly low power, would only work if the battery was taken out. That said the supply never faltered. Video was good with a reasonable large screen (although nobody could describe it as pin sharp) and a good choice of current films and TV shows. The earphones are OK but I used my own which plugged into a single 3.5mm socket so there was no need for an adapter. Service was OK, not bad but not exceptional and the food was standard economy fare, OK but nothing to get excited about. Overall a very pleasant flight and I don't think that I would have had much of a better flight in business class (but I wasn't trying to sleep). Overall plenty of room, good comfort and easy boarding, disembarking. Highly recommended.

Air France Boeing 777-200 Premium Economy Class Seat review   - 22 September 2010 by A Bruce (UK)

Flew the new AF Premium economy product. Pros: hard shell seat gives feeling of extra space, and good AV (with noise reducing headphones, and slot for own 'phones). Socket for laptop also handy tho' not used by me. Seat reclines (actually it "declines" in its shell) enough to aid sleep. Ticket class enables you to access AF lounge at CDG for a fee. The seat is very thin, and very uncomfortable over a long flight. I bought a cushion in SCL for the return route but still had "numb bum". This detracts heavily from an otherwise good product. Please, AF, put some more padding in the seat cushion!

AIR FRANCE BOEING 777-300ER ECONOMY CLASS SEAT REVIEW  - 20 January 2010 by Tarik Tamzali (France)

Entertainment is excellent. But the seat configuration on B777-300 at 3x4x3 makes it hard to survive after a 11 hours flight. AF should definitely think about passenger confort. I will never board those 777 again and I will prefer to choose another airline than AF on my next long haul flights to HKG and ICN.

AIR FRANCE BOEING 777-300ER ECONOMY CLASS SEAT REVIEW  - 4 December 2009 by Terence Ho (Hong Kong)

12 hours from Hong Kong to Paris was awful - my seat wouldn't recline very far, as I was in front of the toilet - the seat width was the worst ever, as was the pitch (especially when reclining). 3x4x3 isn't the normal seating configuration on a 777, which explains why it was so cramped, even for someone as short as I am.

AIR FRANCE BOEING 747-400 ECONOMY CLASS SEAT REVIEW  - 15 October 2009 by Judith Sriram (USA)

This BOS-CDG flight was the worst transatlantic flight I've ever taken. Very cramped seats, I'm small (5'2"), not obese, and could barely fit into it. When person next to me pressed on arm rest, it pinced my thigh enough to make me jump once or twice. Seat so cramped that I could hardly move around to relieve pressure on legs. Will never take this particular flight again.