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Varig - by Hardi Vieira
29
July 2005
B757 LIM-GIG (with a stop-over in GRU) Business Class. For a medium-
range journey (about 4/5h) this was a very good flight. RG has an
excellent business lounge in LIM, shared with other airlines. The C
class on the B757 is spacious (2 x 2 configuration), seat recline is
adequate, and interior configuration has the modern, although classical,
Varig touch. Check-in was quick and efficient. Inflight service/food is
above- average, with a choice of 2 hot dishes, with a full three-course
menu. Wines are served everytime. Crew was a bit senior, very
professional, but could improve in attentiveness or alertness. In-flight
entertainment is average, poor video (no IFE for C class, which is okay
for a medium range flight), but excellent selection of music channels.
The stop-over in GRU is quick and uneventful. My overall rate for this
flight: 9 out of 10.
Varig - by Christian Gotsch
7
July 2005
GRU-GIG and GIG-EZE, both in economy. Reading other correspondents comments I must
have been extremely lucky! Smooth and friendly check-in (despite 100% excess
luggage!), enough legroom, decent in-flight service and food. At check-in for EZE
flight staff went out of their way to get VGML loaded for me. Only minus was total
lack of info when flight was delayed.
Varig - by Jeremy Morais
7
June 2005
One word - AWFUL! Travelled from London to Rio via Sao Paolo and it was the worst journeys I have
ever had the misfortune to travel. on the LHR-SAO route I was actually upgraded to Business, but
overhead storage was poor on the MD-11's that they use, and there was hardly any overhead space for
passengers in the middle. IFA were not interested and the food was mediocre. No personal screens and
the movies were not up-to-date at all. Worst still, we were delayed getting out of the plane because
the door was not changed to 'manual' and when opened, the escape chutes opened, causing havoc and a
lot of trouble getting out. We were given the wrong forms on the plane, resulting in the terminal
running out of the proper landing forms, which were few in number and causing a lot of stampeding
when passengers tried to get one! The return journey was worse, and this time I was in economy, with
no leg room and even less recline. The inflight entertainment was non-existent and no explanation of
why. Service was very poor and food just passable. Not a pleasant experience I would like to repeat.
Overall very disappointing from South America's biggest airline.
Varig - by David Lloyd-Davies
25
May 2005
I must say Varig is a below-average airline. I have flown with them twice business class LHR-GRU-LPB (La Paz) return, a
journey which takes 24 hrs door to door. On two of the intercontinental legs I used a Star Alliance
upgrade certificate to fly in First. First Class on these routes is pretty pleasant as you'd
expect, with only 6 seats and 2 FAs to look after them the service is very attentive. 2 toilets for
F passengers too, so you never have to queue. Nice champagne, caviar (although you sometimes have
to ask), good food in generous portions. Although there's plenty of space, the seat does not go
flat, which is poor for First nowadays. Overall I'd say Varig's First was at a similar level to
Business on a good airline like Lufthansa or Virgin.
Varig Business Class itself is more like a premium economy service, for a 12-hour flight there isn't
much space to stretch out and the seat doesn't recline far. There's also a middle seat (7 across),
which I think is unacceptable for long haul Business. The (mostly middle aged male) FAs seem very
stressed, rushing up and down the aisles and avoiding contact with passengers where possible.
Serving soup seems unusual on a plane, but makes a change.
The LHR-GRU-LHR aircraft are old MD11s, which have big windows and a spacious feel but are in need
of refitting or replacement -no individual IFE in Business or even First! They will reluctantly
give you a video walkman if you insist, although mine took about 2 hours to arrive so I was at that
stage ready to go to sleep. It didn't seem to be functioning properly either.
At LPB there is no business class lounge for Varig pax, while AA has one. The relatively short-haul
flight between GRU and LPB is on an oldish 737, standard short-haul business class service.
Strangely they have plastic cutlery on the long haul flights and metal on the South American routes.
Varig is letting the rest of the Star Alliance down, they really need to sharpen up their act.
Varig - by Rafael Barbosa
25
May 2005
The last time I flew Varig was some 6 months ago, to Los Angeles. Now I'm Brazilian and I consider
myself to be something of a nationalist, but in this case I'll swallow my pride and admit this is
the most hideous major airline in the world. I arrived in GRU 3 hours early, as recommended, but the line for my flight was already stretching far
from the check-in counter, mixing itself up with other lines for other flights and just basically
creating a horrible, horrible mess. Varig didn't seem to care much as no extra personnel were sent
over nor were any additional counters (of the many available) open.
I flew Y, so I can't comment on the state of the lounges (didn't lose much it seems) but
spending 4 hours in a cramped deparure lounge (the flight got delayed two
hours for a glitch in the old MD11 they were using) is enough to get even the most sesoned traveler
bored out of his mind. The in-flight was standard Varig: old, dumpy aircraft, horrible entertainment (a single movie and 4
audio channels - for a 12 hour flight), a couple of stereotypically-greassy meals.
Varig - by Ricardo Queiroz
19
May 2005
My husband and I flew recently with Varig from MIA to GRU to REC to JPA and in reverse to return
home. I am not one to complain, but in this case, I must! On the long segment from MIA to GRU, my
husband's seat was broken, and both our radio/audio systems were also broken--we could not listen to
any of the TV programming. In addition, the plane we were flying in was old and small and, thus,
very uncomfortable for a long 8 hr trip. The food was not commendable, to say the least. The
customer service aboard the plane was also not commendable. On our return trip to MIA, I went to
the bathroom and could not find any of the toileting supplies that they are supposed to have.
Later, when we arrived at MIA, we learned that our luggage was lost! The Varig representative
assisted us in filling out a luggage claim form and gave us 3 phone numbers to contact to
follow-up our process. Well, not to my surprise, I have called all the phone numbers, and no one
answers. Another thing - four out of our six flights were delayed, with no courtesy
announcements --we had to go and ask what was happening. Poor communication, or, should I
say, no communication. On my next
trip to anywhere, I will stay away from Varig because my life and my comfort are important to me,
especially when I have to pay a lot of money for them!
Varig - by Matt Liaw
18
May 2005
Flew Y with VARIG return CDG-AMS outbound on May 10 and inbound on May 12. I have to say that I was
satisfied with their service on this short flight. The flights both took off on time with early
arrivals (20 min early than the scheduled arrival time). The MD-11 they used were old and it was
easy to tell from the seats inside. Flight attendants were extremely nice on both flights especially
on the CDG-AMS leg considering they just finished a long flight in from Sao Paolo. The sandwich and
drink service on board was standard on intra-euro flights. All in all I liked flying with them and
next time if I have another chance going to AMS, I will consider flying with VARIG again.
Varig - by John Grant
1
May 2005
Probably the worst airline in business class I have experienced for many a year. Travelling from LHR
to SAO in Business Class the experience was a throw back to the 70's with very uncomfortable seats,
poor catering and no personal IFE despite the claim of such service in the in-flight magazine. The
return was equally as poor and the supposed executive lounge at SAO unable to
accommodate more than
30 passengers. For a member of the 'Star Alliance' the experience was very very poor and reflective of a company
going with no ideas about customer service. If you have to fly this lot then take your own
sandwiches and a book!
Incidentally, how can a Brazilian airline serve rubbish coffee that's luke warm and served from plastic
containers!
Varig - by Peter Sorger
21
April 2005
MIA-GRU. As always RG flights leaves the Gate after the scheduled departure time. I'm always asking why
they can never be on time? We passengers need to be on time to check-in and to board - maybe one
day I get lucky. As an Diamond FQTV I asked for an upgrade in exchange with miles. Flight was not full so I got it.
Old MD11 - maintenance of the cabin is worst. Service was okay. No IFE as on the most flights, you can have it only on the B777 flights - the best on the VRA
and VRB prefix planes. FA as always have problems to speak and make announcements in English. No excuses from RG - TAM FA's are perfect in English. Is time for Varig
to work on their FA's , hire new people, bring back the excellent service from some years ago.
Varig - by Leo Santangelo
3
April 2005
LHR to GRU.
The aircraft: and MD11 that has seen better days, some of the cabin lights were missing, so were
some no smoking and fasten seat belt signs, the toilets did look old.
The crew - would not smile and did their job and just that.
The service - after take off a small tray, with a small casserole
with chicken, bread roll, salad and salad dressing, and a
kind of apple strudel - and before landing a cold breakfast. Cold meat and cheese with a couple of pieces of fruit. They offered hot
drinks and when I asked for tea with milk (because it wasn't any milk on the tray) the
stewardess told me that she didn't have tea with milk - she had black tea, black coffee or white
coffee. The In Flight Entertainment: a few small over head monitors and in a 11:50 hour flight we were
shown one movie - and no chance to watch anything else.
That's Varig for you - things that they could have done better like tea and coffee after the meal service, hot towels, on demand IFE.
Reply from : Customer Relations Management, VARIG
S.A
30
March 2005
Concerning the comments in this page made by Mr. Henrique Abreu, we would like to thank you very much
for the offered space for our reply.
We kindly inform that the client was contacted by Varig and then the clarifications were duly
performed about what had happened and Mr. Henrique Abreu got satisfied with the solution.
Varig - by Marc
Savini
17
February 2005
LHR-GIG via GRU in Feb 2005 out First back Business on their MD11.
First class out was very nice indeed. Was able to use both Singapore airlines F lounge or United
Airlines F lounge at LHR, of which I preferred the United Airlines Lounge. On board, there were two
cabin crew members attending to 6 passengers in First. The service was quick and friendly. The seat
was comfortable though not fully flat (more like 170 degrees) but nevertheless I slept quite well.
The food was very good. There were also two toilets available for the exclusive use of F class. The
only complaint would be that there were no personal video screens but as it was a night flight it
didn't bother me that much.
The flight back in business was good and bad. The business lounge in GRU is so unbelievable
overcrowded. There were lots of people having to stand up. The service on board was reasonable, 4
crew members and 2 toilets for about 45 passengers. Food was good, about the same as First but
without the caviar.
The biggest complaint would be the seat recline which is only about 130 degrees and again the lack
of a personal TV screen.
Varig - by Henrique Abreu
11
February 2005
We spent more than 8 hours in the boarding room of the Salvador da Bahia Airport in a flight Porto
Seguro-Salvador-Lisbon without getting updated information, a proper meal, and with
my 5 year old son and many other children around being uncomfortable and sleepy.
It was really a very nasty situation and the Varig personnel was not managing at all this
situation. Would not recommend to fly Varig.
Varig - by Don Lindsay
30
January 2005
I have never entered a comment on one of these forums before but my experiences with Varig were so
second-rate that I felt I should. I was travelling around Brazil for three weeks during which time
I was booked on 7 Varig flights. The logo and image of Varig suggests flair and panache but the
flights were all late, some very late. All but two went via somewhere which was very irritating
considering that I was travelling between major centres - even more so when I had to change planes
too. All the planes from MD11's through a variety of 737's were tired and in bad need of a refurb.
The air crew were friendly enough but so unstylish - who in heaven's name ever thought those aprons
were appropriate attire for the female cabin crew (they wear them outside of meal-service times).
Ground crew were unknowledgeable and not able to field complaints regarding late flights. I got so
fed up with the experience that I actually chose to drive between between Belo Horizonte and Rio
despite having paid the ticket. My last experience was a humdinger GIG-GRU scheduled departure
11:30. Plane eventually arrives at gate 12:30. Passengers board 1:00; too many passengers - chaos
ensues. Plane eventually departs 13:45 and, believe it or not, with two young boys in the
cockpit! Star can only want Varig for their route network. The other STAR majors must hate
putting their passengers on Varig.
Varig - by James Foye
28
January 2005
My flight from Rio to SP was cancelled and Varig put me and a lot of other people on a later flight.
There were a number of delays including a strange last-minute bag check, and they lost count of how
many people were on the plane and some people had to get off. Then we sat on the runway for an hour
in oppressive heat. No announcements were made. Finally the plane took off. At SP I had already
missed my connection to Atlanta on Delta. There were no Varig people to greet us, so we went running
through the near-empty terminal looking for help. We found some Varig employees who were getting
ready to go home, and they got me booked on one of their flights to Los Angeles, which (fortunately
for me) was running very late. She told me my bag would get on the flight (certainly there was
enough time for them to get it on there), but when I got to LA my bag did not arrive. Delta
delivered it two days later. (Just to cap things off, I missed my connection from LA to Austin on
American, something that the AA personnel could easily have avoided if they had cared. That's
another story). There is no question but that I can never, ever fly this airline again. I would rather take a bus
first. The most terrible thing about the whole ordeal is that no Varig employee would ever tell us
what was going on.
Varig - by Eduardo Lacson
20
January 2005
Frankfurt-Rio Business Class. Check-in by Lufthansa and was
efficient and fast. I was upgraded to First at the gate due to overbooking in economy, who were
upgraded to business. The crew were pleasant and professional. The plane, an MD11 was clean,
the flat bed in First was quite comfortable. The food was good, I would say better than most
European and US airlines. Wines were choices from Argentina, Chile, Italy and Germany. Good
selection. The only negative point was the Personal entertainment - I normally don't watch the
movies as I prefer to sleep on long flights. However they do offer personal videos on First
and Business but it seemed no one really bothered to ask for one. My return was on Business class,
and again I had excellent service on the ground and on board. The flight was full and the crew
handled this very well - seats were quite comfortable, good pitch and I slept almost the entire
flight. I don't know if I am just a lucky passenger having read all the negative reviews on this
airline.
Varig - by Carlos Fonseca
23
December 2004
LIS/GIG on an old B767. The seat of my son would not recline in a proper way. Both seats were dirty and one of them had an old
chewing gum. The worst was the flight to RIO. A messy boarding in a small plane without C class, with a rude crew. And they could not care less. VARIG always misleads the passengers from
Europe informing that the
same plane will fly to Rio. As a Brazilian, it is sad to acknowledge that the company is probably one of the worst in the
world. It even sadder when one remembers that 15 years ago Varig would rank with the best.
Varig - by Duarte Fernandes
21
November 2004
Lisbon to Fortaleza with VARIG and have to say this was the worst flight ever in my
life. Cabin staff attitude were - we could not care less about you. Pressing the buzzer was useless
even to ask for a glass of water on a 12h flight via Recife. No PA's were made
apart from the one
with the emergency procedures to which cabin crew were absent to point out exits and so on. After
the emergency procedures announcement was already in half one stewardess arrived to finalize the
demos! This was a 767-300 on behalf of Portuguese airline Euro Atlantic. No IFE for all flight and
surprise it was the same aircraft back to LIS and again no IFE! Meals were ok but equipment seemed a
lit bit old as there were no light signs indicating exits ( on a night flight ) .I asked one crew
about this and he replied that in fact the IFE and other equipment were out of
order. I asked on the
way back if maintenance did not fix these problems to which he replied that is with Euro Atlantic
not Varig business. All cabin attendants were more concerned to rest than to perform their tasks.
They vanished 5 Hours from the cabin after meal service and I went to the rear galley for a glass of
water to found them seating on jump seats and telling me to serve myself.
When we arrived in Recife the passengers to Fortaleza were not told what to do were to go. On the
way back it was a rather bumpy flight with the same senior old lady who was in a bad mood and was
most unpleasant to attend passengers.
Varig - by Pedro Vagueiro
18
November 2004
Economy class from Lisbon to São Paulo and from Rio de
Janeiro to Lisbon via São Paulo plus 9 domestic flights in Brazil. I chose Varig
only because I could earn miles on my Lufthansa’s Miles & More card and could buy Varig’s Brazil Air
Pass. The check-in for the LIS-GRU flight RG 8707 was fast and efficient as I arrived at the airport
more than 2 hours in advance. The only minor problem was that the young lady at the counter didn’t
know that I could earn miles on a Varig flight with my Lufthansa’s Miles & More card. Apparently she
didn’t know what Star Alliance was, but quickly realised that I could actually earn miles with my
card. Boarding was 15 minutes after departure time and the plane took-off 45 minutes late.
Surprisingly enough it arrived at GRU 15 minutes early. The flight was operated by a MD-11 that
despite its apparent age was reasonably well maintained, clean and tidy. I was lucky to get a seat
on the last row (40) in the middle of the aircraft and had plenty of legroom for an economy class
seat, which was fairly comfortable. IFE on this aircraft consisted in small screens on the ceiling
and only one movie was shown on this more than 9 hour-flight. There’s no such “luxuries” as PTV’s.
Service on board consisted in a lunch served shortly after take-off with a choice of 3 main dishes:
pasta, chicken or pork. I chose pork and it was fine but the portions were small. No drinks were
offered afterwards and the crew went to the galleys and only appeared near the end of the flight to
serve what was called “dinner” but was actually a snack, a hot ham and cheese sandwich basically. I
arrived at GRU feeling hungry and wondered what was the use of the toothpaste and brush that I was
given as amenity kit. The flight was quiet and safe. Flight attendants did their job without smiles
and didn’t greet anyone during boarding or leaving the plane. On the return flight from GIG to LIS
via GRU the check-in was a bit of a mess as there was only one queue to all the Varig flights. Only
when boarding time was near did the stewards open a separate counter for the Lisbon and London
flights. It’s strange that both flights shared the same aircraft until GRU with different codes, RG
8706 for the Lisbon flight. A MD-11 was used for this 40 minute-flight to GRU that then went to
London and I had to change plane. The flight departed late and so did the second plane from
GRU,
almost one hour. This time was an old Boeing 767-300 with both the markings Varig Charter and
EuroAtlantic Airways (a Portuguese charter airline). This aircraft although showing very much its
age was fairly maintained and this time I got a “normal” seat with the usual tight legroom common to
most airlines. IFE was only a movie again but this time there was only a main screen, which was
practically impossible to me to see. Dinner was served, as it was a night flight with 2 choices:
pasta or chicken. I had chicken and it was fine and portions seemed a little larger. FA’s
disappeared again and I had to go to a galley to ask for some water. Shortly before landing
breakfast was served. FA’s were again not particularly friendly. This flight was also quiet and safe
but quite boring because of the limited IFE and the seats are not very comfortable on this aircraft.
As for the domestic flights they were comparatively better because there was always a snack offered
even on short flights. In 11 flights only one departed on time and boarding time seems to be an
unknown concept for Varig. Delays usually varied from 30 minutes to 1 hour except for the flight
from Brasília to Belo Horizonte/Pampulha which departed 4 hour late but at least I was offered
dinner at the airport. Fortunately my luggage was never lost even in tight connections in Brazil. I
also have my doubts about Varig’s FA’s ability to speak decent English considering the flight
announcements made in this language although in the Lisbon route this is not relevant as most of the
passengers are Portuguese like myself or Brazilians and we all speak Portuguese. All in all Varig
seems to be a very average airline especially as far as long haul flights are concerned.
Varig - by G Collett
31
October 2004
Sao Paulo - LHR. This airline has to be one of the poorest airlines in the industry. The
flight was delayed in Sao Paulo by 10 hours, no worries I thought as I had a business class ticket
and therefore access to the lounge - big mistake! The lounge was crowded, overheated and noisy.
There were no english language journals, newspapers or magazines and all TV was in
portuguese. I think given the airline is flying to London then it should at least cater for the english speaking
passengers. The only food in the lounge for the entire delay was those strange cheese sandwiches they provide -
until we asked forcefully for something to keep us going. It appears the economy passengers outside
had been given vouchers for food but the high revenue passengers had been ignored!
Eventually we took off and the equipment (MD11), staff, food and all elements of the flight were
shoddy to say the least. Some might say it was outrageously bad and I would not disagree with them!
Varig - by Philipp Merten
6
September 2004
FRA-GIG-CWB; the long haul flight was carried operated with an MD-11, no PTV's, only one
single movie shown on a 12 hour flight!
After our departure in FRA we were served dinner (nothing special); after the flight attendants had
served dinner they literally disappeared! I think I didn't see one single flight attendant for 7
hours (so beverages are not served frequently throughout the flight!); after 8 hours of flight I got
up in order to get hold of some water! I ended up in the rear of the plane! The F/A gave me looks
because I asked for water (I have to add I interrupted her conversation with a colleague!). The some
of the cabin crew on the flight from GIG-CWB had difficulties speaking English!
To come to an end RG is very expensive and the service is compared to the price there bad! On LH you
pay the same amount of money but the service is by far better! I don't even want to start an
comparison with SQ, CX, EK, MH, etc.!
Varig - by José António
10
August 2004
Lisbon to São Paulo and RG8706 back to Lisboa.
Lisboa to São Paulo I went in a B767-300. Nice crew, very friendly and attentive.
From São Paulo to Lisboa got luckier and caught a better plane, a MD-11 with more space and
excellent crew staff !! Although I am not an everyday frequent flyer, I would say it was a
pleasant
trip in a good airline. I would also say that one can not judge an airline either by one or two good
experiences or bad experiences. In flights inside Europe I already had good experiences and bad
ones in the same company depending crew, plain and other aspects.
Varig - by S Nicoros
19
July 2004
SAO to LHR. Old plane, uncomfortable, unfriendly (senior) staff, stale breakfast, poor
(almost non existent) entertainment, broken seats (in front of me!) and a full
plane with no air conditioning! It was hotter than hell!! And the air was really thin and stale.
So, on behalf of the rest of the sweaty passengers, I
asked an FA what's the problem with the air condition and heat - she motioned a "wait a second, I'll
find out and let you know" hand gesture - never saw or heard from her again! Then when I went to
the end of the plane to get some water to help deal with the dehydration and I kind of realised
why - their area was lovely and cool! No wonder they all were gathered there - even when people
(14 of us) lit the attendant Lights! I experienced the same level
of service on my way out to SAO - if you want to have a journey where you will feel like a human
being - during and after flight - avoid Varig. As a side note, I was speaking to a Brazilian
woman on the flight who was also complaining about the service and I informed her that I was told
Varig were comparable to BA - the only reason I booked with them in the first place, as my first trip
to Brazil was with Alitalia which also left a lot to be desired! She said something about
how this may have been true 6-7 years ago but since then there has been a change in the company and
spending has been reduced leaving old planes, staff, etc.
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