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Air Atlanta Europe - by Sarah Johnson
15 October 2006
Travel City is/was always has been part of AAE-which is now XL. The
747's they use (excluding first and upper deck) have more leg room than
other economy 747's. Seats are cheap to SFB - you can pick up a ticket
from £99. Unlimited free drinks too plus a hot meal and a snack on an 8
hour flight.
Air Atlanta Europe - by Geoff Newsome
9 May 2006
from Birmingham to Egypt. The flight was operated by an Air Malta
Airbus. Modern aircraft and crew where good but this type of aircraft is
not suitable for a long flight. 180 passengers, 3 toilets and no
entertainment. On return because of head winds the flight had to tech.
stop at Venice to pick up extra fuel. This meant a total flight time of
7 hours ,this was not an isolated incident most of these Air Atlanta
flights from Egypt pick up fuel in either Frankfurt (Hahn ) or Venice.
Air Atlanta Europe - by Sue Pitman
6 May 2006
I travelled recently to Sharm El Sheikh with Air Atlanta UK. We actually
flew in an Air Malta plane. It was new, very clean and we received
excellent service from very friendly staff. On a 5 hour flight it would
have been nice to get some sort of entertainment seeing as the screens
were there - they apparently just didn't use them. I would not hesitate
to travel with them again in the future.
Air Atlanta Europe - by Alex Latterman
18 April 2006
Manchester to Sanford. The legroom was better than both BA and Virgin
and the service was fine. Yes, the plane did appear to be dated but the
seats were comfortable and there was no evidence of anything unsafe.
Overall, we had a very good flight both ways (minus the high turbulence
on the return trip, nothing to do with the airline) and would use the
airline and recommend it again. Either we got lucky or Travel City have
made some changes to the way they operate.
Air Atlanta Europe - by Darren Woodward
28 February 2006
Gatwick to Sanford on 11/02/06. initial flight delayed by 3 hours 50
minutes due to a technical fault. After finally boarding and getting
airborne, aircraft returned to Gatwick with the same fault! We were told
by ground staff that we would be hoteled overnight, and the next day
there would be two 767-300/200 aeroplanes to choose from. Told to check
in at 9.40am, check in eventually opened at 11.40am for a 12.40pm
departure. Was then told that neither 767 was available, and we would
have a 747 300 instead, which, when it landed at 9.28am that morning,
also had a technical fault! Was told that they had no crew for the 747,
and we eventually departed at 6.30pm, making our flight delayed by over
30 hours! Staff on the first day made promises that were not kept. On
the return flight (25/02/06) 767-200 in high density seating e.g. same
seat pitch as you would find on Ryan Air, arrived at Sanford to pick us
up. Delayed one hour on this return flight. Please be warned if you have
booked first class or premium economy, and when you check in, they tell
you that you have got a 767-200, there is only economy seating on this
aircraft. Crew on outbound flight more interested in hiding behind the
curtain and sleeping than attending to passengers. However, crew on the
return flight couldn't be more helpful. All in all, totally dissatisfied
with the outbound flight, and disappointed with lack of information on
delay with return flight.
Air Atlanta Europe - by W Nix
15 February 2006
Manchester to Orlando. Like everyone else we found seats far too cramped
for such a long flight. On request we were transferred to seats up front
for the return flight. Would not have used the airline if we had seen
previous comments.
Air Atlanta Europe - by Jo Smith
14 January 2006
Air Atlanta flight to Sandford chartered by Travel City. We had paid to
go Sunshine first and found it worth the extra money. The legroom was
good, and meals certainly better that economy. We had hand held
personal entertainment systems with a good selection of films, games and
music. The staff were efficient. Our only complaint was that even
though we had paid all the extra money, we still had to walk to the
middle of the plane to queue to use the economy toilets - 3 of which
were blocked by the time the flight arrived back in Manchester.
Air Atlanta Europe - by Colin McFarlane
22 December 2005
Travelled from Glasgow to Sanford on a Travel City Direct 747 operated
by Air Atlanta Europer. Paid for a double upgrade to Sunshine First
Upper deck (or something like that). If this was two upgrades I shudder
to think what economy was like. Leg room average at best. Meal - average
to poor, entertainment - poor (no seat back TVs). Staff ok, but could be
clearly heard complaining about their pay and conditions. The plane
appeared old and tatty. For what we paid for upgrades we could have gone
on a proper aircraft. I've travelled Travel City many times and consider
tham good value for money when I've flown Air 200, Thomas Cook,
Airtours/MyTravel, however that 'TravelCityDirect jumbo gets built up to
be a lot more than it is. Upgrades definitely not worth the money.
Air Atlanta Europe - by John Craigie
2 November 2005
Gatwick to Sanford and return on an Excel flight although we were booked
to travel on Air Atlanta Europe. I understand the reason given was that
additional passengers were being flown home from Cancun via Sanford. I
would advise people to confirm their return flights ahead of travelling.
I was wary of travelling with Air Atlanta but overall the flights were
good and the service and food no different to other airlines. The
"entertainment" leaves a little to be desired. There will be delays but
I have flown to Orlando with Virgin and BA and I was delayed on both.
There were 5 in our party and the savings were nearly £1000. If you want
luxury and can afford it, fly BA.
Air Atlanta Europe - by Chris Cooper
30 October 2005
Manchester to Sanford 13th October - We arrived for our flight after
reading some of these comments and were worried. Our worries seemed to
be justified when the departure time was put back an hour or so. At
regular intervals, the departure time was moved further back. We started
to believe that this was going to turn into a 30 hour delay as some have
suffered, but we eventually left Manchester after a 3-4 hour delay. We
felt that was a result. The seats were newly covered, there was plenty
of legroom (It was a 747-300 aircraft), and the food, for an airline,
was ok. The staff were attentive and helpful and the flight went well.
Eventually the captain announced that we were about to begin our descent
into Sanford Airport. What he failed to tell us, was that he must have
let the stewardess land the plane for a laugh. We landed on the left
wheels which meant the right set came down with quite a thud. The follow
on from this was a swerve on the runway at top speed. Probably only
slight, but it felt like a big one inside the cabin. We then waited ages
to collect our bags, but I've waited as long with other airlines. The
flight back to Manchester on the 27th was just as eventful. At the
check-in, the flight showed a delay of over 4 hours. The plane was
airborne from Manchester, so at least we knew that it was on its way. We
also got refreshment vouchers ($7 each) at the check in.
On take-off, an overhead panel near the door dropped open. Again, the
cabin crew were great and worked hard and the food was ok. There were
two films on the trip as well. When the news came through that we were
about to descend into Manchester, I considered adopting the brace
position, but felt that the bad landing at Sanford was an aberration.
How wrong was I? We again landed on one wheel and the other came down
with an even bigger thud than before. This time, there was no swerve,
but the aircraft went into a rocking motion which made each wing look as
though it was inches from the runway. But I'm glad to say that we made
it back in one piece. We flew with them because we needed 9 seats, and
only Air Atlanta had them. With hindsight, I'm not surprised. Some
people say that at least 'AA' were cheap, but we didn't think they were
that cheap. I feel sorry for the staff, because on our flights, they
worked very hard and gave us plenty of attention. They deserve more!
We would not fly with this airline again for two reasons. First of all,
they seem to be plagued by delays, and nothing I've witnessed or read
has convinced me they have turned a corner. Secondly, as an ex-aircraft
engineer, I can tell you that it's very unusual for any airline to have
so many 'technical faults'. Even old aircraft shouldn't break down so
often if properly maintained. But if the two landings we encountered are
the norm, then it's no surprise that they have regular faults, because
their aircraft take a battering on landing. If you are due to fly with
Air Atlanta soon - the best of British luck to you!!
Air Atlanta Europe - by Wayne Hoy
26 October 2005
Flight from Sanford back to Manchester on 22nd October. Went to
TravelCity early check in at Lake Buena Vista at 09:30 to be told 18:15
flight had been diverted to pick up hurricane victims - and was not
leaving until 00:30 on Sunday. When got to Sanford, we were moved to the
EUK837 to Gatwick, which would then take us to Manchester after dropping
off at Gatwick. Flight took off over an hour late and developed a fault
with smoke in the cabin after 2 hours in the air. Emergency landing at
Halifax (Canada) and stuck on plane for nearly 3 hours in boiling heat
at back of plane (air conditioning doesn't work properly on the
ground!). Eventually offloaded and 500 people aged from 2 months to 70
years were wandering round Halifax airport with no food or money and no
sign of Air Atlanta staff. No provisions for anyone and no-one had any
Canadian dollars to buy food or drink. I noticed the crew sneaking out
of the building to their hotel when we didn't even know what was going
on. I asked the caption and he said he didn't know anything as he only
flies the plane. I asked him who was co-ordinating all the stranded
passengers at the airport and he said he didn't know and suggested if I
was that bothered, I should do it myself. He also said I should count
myself lucky to only have to deal with Air Atlanta when going on holiday
as he has to deal with them every day and that they were always this
bad. Bear in mind, this is the Captain of the airplane not a steward!!
Eventually Air Canada took over and got us to hotels but without meal
vouchers. It was around 06:00 in the morning by now. We had to fight
over the phone with Air Canada to meal vouchers for breakfast. We had to
move hotels at 12:00 as ours had a convention and only kept us for 6
hours. Finally got called back to the airport for 20:00 with plane due
to take off at 21:30. Further technical problems meant it was 01:00 on
Monday when we took off. We had been trying to get the British Consulate
to get hold of Air Atlanta at this stage as we had not one person
contact us from Air Atlanta in all the time we were abandoned. We
finally arrived at Manchester at 12:30 on Monday, 30 hours late. We
have no complaints that the captain took the right action to not risk
the plane's safety but how they dealt with it afterwards was
disgraceful. The Canadians were very helpful and could not believe what
was happening. If you have to use this airline, book extra days off work
to recover after your holiday. I have not put all the details here as
the list of wrong information and rumours which were circulating due to
no information from Air Atlanta would go on for ever.
Air Atlanta Europe - by Gary Macdonald
24 October 2005
Manchester to Sanford return. Both flights departed and arrived
on time, which judging by the information board at Sanford was better than the likes of First Choice
etc. Check-in efficient and we were allocated requested seats. Planes on both routes were
obviously not just out of the factory, but we no faults with the onboard service or
entertainment. Warning, XL.COM who seem to organise everything for Air Atlanta told me in advance
that there would be seat back entertainment - there is not. Generally you pay for what you
get and in this case it was a little money well spent.
Air Atlanta Europe - by Colin Hoffman
24 October 2005
Gatwick - Sanford 7 October, just 45 minutes late owing to congestion at Gatwick. Boeing 747-300
with leather seats and in good condition. Entertainment not good, and food too long to wait for.
Staff fine but our man was sarcastic. I discovered the staff are on summer contracts and
are out of a job at the end of October - maybe that plays a part.
Return on 21 October 45 minutes early arriving at Gatwick and it was a better
managed, more professional flight all round. Both planes had Travel City Direct on them but operated by Air Atlanta.
I would echo the comments that if you want full service use BA/Virgin etc, but you will pay a lot more.
Air Atlanta Europe - by Sylvia Allsop
20 October 2005
We returned Friday 14th October 2005 from Florida with Travel City
Direct. We booked and paid extra for the Sunshine Deck - not worth the
extra money. Seats were small, a little extra leg room, service from
crew very poor to the point of being rude. Shabby and poorly maintained
and gives cause for safety. Would never travel again with them, it is a
shame as Travel City are a good Company.
Air Atlanta Europe - by Justin Harford
19 October 2005
We returned to the UK on 15th Oct (Manchester - Sanford) with Air
Atlanta Europe via Travel City Direct. On check in at Manchester a
letter was passed around indicating a 3 hr delay, but no reason
given. I asked at the desk and the reason was due to a knock on affect
from the previous day - which of course meant nothing! (we noticed the
plane land approx 5 hrs late into Manchester). We finally took off 4 hrs
late, which after reading some of the reviews we weren't too annoyed
about. The plane did seem fairly old but the seats were leather and the
leg room was good. On our return the flight was scheduled on time but
boarding seem to take ages and we took off an hour late of which 1/2 hr
was made up so this was acceptable. The plane seemed even older than our
outbound one but we sat upstairs which gave us even more leg room and
storage space and so were quite pleased. However, there were a number of
broken arm rests. As regards the Air Atlanta staff, outbound staff were
a mixture of friendly and unhelpful, but on our return they were good!
The food was pretty much as good as it gets for flight meals. Overall I
would say that Air Atlanta need to update their plane's as it is a
little worrying when you first board them. It would have cost double to
fly with Virgin, but providing Air Atlanta's plane's are safe then I
wouldn't say that you get double for your money! I would consider flying
with them again but believe that some of Travel City's own branded
plane's are a lot newer and would probably request this.
Air Atlanta Europe - by Carol Mason
15 October 2005
Gatwick to Dalaman. Check in provided excellent service at Gatwick. The
They arranged porters who got us through passport control and collection
of our luggage. Return flight departure on time, but having been given
seats the airline decided not to use, we had a problem when we got on
the aircraft - as the staff had to reshuffle people to accommodate us in
suitable seats. Staff were helpful and resolved a situation quickly.
The only problem was that we were moved through to board first and then
left waiting until all other passengers had boarded, before we were
allowed on. It would have been far better to leave us in the departure
lounge seated if we were being boarded last. The only negative was that
having paid for our meals we heard that everyone has a meal whether
taken as an option or not?
Air Atlanta Europe - by G Matthews
9 October 2005
EUK836/EUK837 Gatwick to Sanford. The outbound flight was delayed by 5
hours (flaps did not work) I accepted this as safety is paramount, but
lack of info to time of departure and perfect timing in releasing meal
vouchers, after every one had eaten at lunch time, they could have
released the vouchers earlier as they knew we were not going to be
flying for some time. When on board the plane I was worrying for my
safety as the condition of the plane was shabby and old, and the over
use of duct tape holding most seats, lockers etc from falling apart.
The flaps worked fine I am glad to say .The cabin crew were not the most
helpful and cheerful bunch but did their job. The journey home was on
the same aeroplane the only thing that changed was the colour of the
tape holding every thing together , was silver now black. This flight
ran on time. I did not complain to the airline as they have probably
heard all the complaints before but would not recommend this airline to
anybody!
Air Atlanta Europe - by Gary Thompson
9 October 2005
Gatwick to Sanford Sept/Oct 2005.
Outward bound the flight was delayed for over 5 hours - very little
information was given to passengers as to the reason, except when we
finally got onto the plane, we were told that it was due to a technical
problem which they thought they had fixed! The plane was old and tatty -
the crew were fairly pleasant, although there were a couple of them who
thought a great deal about themselves and were unhelpful. The flight
itself was fine - comfortable and no problems. Arriving at Sanford,
luggage was removed very quickly. The return flight from Sandford to
Gatwick was delayed for 3 hours - again, no reasons were given and we
still don't know why. The plane was the same and the crew was about the
same, except for one really unhelpful purser who thought he was special
and was doing us a favour by allowing us to fly with them! Flight was
ok, although the entertainment system is very old and totally inadequate
for a 747. Upon arrival at Gatwick, there was nobody to operate the
airbridge, so we were bussed to the terminal and then had to wait over
an hour for the baggage to be allocated a conveyor belt. Again, no
reasons were given. We will not use Air Atlanta Europe in the future -
the staff are unhelpful and the planes are old - however, the most
irritable thing is that the flights appear to be regularly delayed with
little or no reasons given. Think carefully about flying AAE - you do
get what you pay for.
Air Atlanta Europe - by Neil Constable
2 October 2005
We flew from Manchester with Air Atlanta Europe. Until our
return I wasn't aware of this web-site, and if I had I may have been a
bit dubious about travelling
with AAE. The check-in at the station was no problem as we usually leave
the car at Airparks, and
their drop-off is just outside the station. The severe delays that some
correspondents speak of
didn't occur, but boarding was delayed by over an hour for no apparent
reason other than general
disorganisation. Once on board, our seats were very good. We had booked
extra legroom, and were
allocated seats on row 01 - more than enough room. Yes, the aircraft had
been around the block a few
times (and in some areas it showed), but most things seemed to work
(except the air conditioning,
when on the ground), and we were held there for about another hour
before take off, getting very hot
and uncomfortable. The first part of the flight was fairly uneventful,
but when it came to the meal
service, the flight attendant couldn't find the tables for the front
seats. Eventually they were
found in a locker in front bulkhead, but the most worrying aspect of
this was the comment made by
the flight attendant who said "I have no idea where anything is, this is
the first time I've been on
this aircraft". If she didn't know where the tables were, did she know
where the safety equipment
was should there have been an emergency? All in all we arrived at the
hotel a couple of hours late,
and missed dinner into the bargain. The return flight was a similar
story, an hour delay to board for no apparent reason and then
airborne about 90 minutes late. The seats were again extra leg room, but
this time not so good; in
row 11, by the toilet, so we suffered a constant stream (no pun
intended) of people trailing to the
toilet. There must be some really weak bladders around! This time there
were a few things that
didn't work in the cabin. There was no in-flight entertainment, and no
explantion why so I don't
know if they didn't plan any, or it was just plain bust. After the cabin
lights were dimmed for the
night flight, the reading lights didn't work, then they did, but were
not switchable, so all reading
lights were on. Then they were switched off again. We arrived at
Manchester over an hour late, and then had to wait another hour for the
baggage to
arrive. It had been sent to terminal 2, and we were in terminal 1. I'm
not sure if that was an
airport or airline problem, but either way it's something you can do
without at 3am.
All in all, a little disappointing, very worrying and certainly the last
time AAE will be flying me or my family.
Air Atlanta Europe - by Keith Greer
2 October 2005
AIr Atlanta Gatwick to Dalaman 9-Sept - flight EUK501
Delayed 5 hours (Technical problem with aircraft meant bringing in a
replacement from Manchester.
Company broke EU regulations by refusing food, drinks and communications
(they verbally admitted
this to one of the passengers). Total don't care attitude. Earlier
flight cancelled so many passengers had even longer wait.
Ground Staff not properly trained in communication and understanding the
rules. No writing to
airline to get compensation suggest any one else on the flight does the
same.
Glad to say that we confirmed returned flight as per the ticket
requirements and unlike other
passengers who did not had an on time pleasant return flight.
Air Atlanta Europe - by Julia Barnwell
2 October 2005
Manchester to Tenerife on 9th September 2005, check in was excellent,
no queue's, although it is a long way to the departure gate at the end
of Terminal one. Apparently when I saw the 747 I went pale - it's old,
very old!. We were delayed for an hour, and then sat on the tarmac for
around 40 minutes apparently waiting for a cardboard box to be loaded!
There was plenty of leg room as we were in row three, but the interior
left a lot to be desired, I put my tray down and it promptly fell off
it's hinges, the seats were ripped and had metal bits sticking out of
them, the overhead lockers didn't shut properly and on take off cupboard
doors sprung open! The landing gear sounds like it needs a good dose of
oil. The flight crew weren't the most pleasant of crew, they just did
their job, meals and entertainment were standard. Return journey
delayed an hour, different plane but still ancient, water dripping from
overhead, broken trays, no in-flight entertainment, ran out of tea, crew
obviously having a bad day because we didn't see a smile, apart
from when we landed!. and then had to wait for around 15 minutes to get
off the plane because there was no-one available to operate the
airbridge! These flights weren't cheap, I wouldn't travel with
Air Atlanta again - the condition of the planes worries me.
Air Atlanta Europe - by Stuart Young
2 October 2005
Gatwick to Sanford return on the 747-300. The flight out was delayed by
one hour due to the baggage handlers. The flight back was on time.
Iinflight entertainment broke down on the return flight, but we slept
through . The cabin crew were as good as we had previously encountered
and the food was ok. We'll take them as we find them, and we'll use them
again.
Air Atlanta Europe - by Steve Jell
27 September 2005
I have just returned from Orlando with Air Atlanta and had a three hour delay on the return journey,
apart from that we had no complaints at all, the plane was clean and tidy and the entertainment was ok ,
the food was good and the staff attentive. Enjoyable flight out and back and saved £2500 on last years
virgin holiday to Orlando.
Air Atlanta Europe - by Alan Horobin
27 September 2005
Air Atlanta to Sanford from Manchester return. Both flights were approx. 1 hour late which is acceptable.
We found the planes to be fine on both occasions as were meals and complimentary drinks. Our only problem was
that the staff on the return flight were non existent - apart from whilst they were serving meals and drinks etc -
if you wanted anything else you had to "hunt them down" as pressing the call button was to no avail.
Air Atlanta Europe - by Ruth Shaw
27 September 2005
I travelled with my husband and 2 teenager kids to Sandford from Gatwick on EUK844 and returned on EUK845 -
we were pleased wih both flights. Despite arriving early we were unable to get seats with extra legroom but
found that the aircraft had good legroom, and as the outbound flight was not full we were able to spread out
a bit. The staff were pleasant and food average. On our return flight we spotted some of the ducktape but
it was only on the armrest and did not affect anything. For the price - we booked through Broadway Travel
and not Travel City - the flights were great, only 2 moans, there was a delay on our return and no
explanation was given and the quality of the inflight entertainment was not great. All in all would use them again.
Air Atlanta Europe - by Steve Pugh
26 September 2005
We travelled to Florida on an Air Atlanta plane. As mentioned by previous people the planes are slightly dated however were
comfortable and on the return flight we had leather seats. If you want full luxury you get with major airlines then pay their prices.
Air Atlanta Europe - by Jo Mullin
26 September 2005
Travelled to Sharm el Sheik. Arrived at Manchester Airport 4 hours early to get exit seats as these
couldn't be pre-booked to be told there was a 1.5 hour delay not bad considering. TWe were due to leave
at 12.55pm but the time changed from previously stated to 4.00pm, we were told to go to the gate with
the departure time still stated as 4.00pm - everyone proceeded and were all waiting patiently only to
be then told there would be another delay until 5.00pm. During this time we had members of the family
checking out what time the flight had arrived in, this was 2.30pm. Other passengers I have since found
out were told they had to fly the crew up from London. We were then told the plane was overweight they
had put too much fuel on board, how on earth can this happen. The return journey wasn't too bad we were
supposedly on time, Gatwick having a 2 hour delay, we were sat in the gate room when Gatwick were told
to board we were still sat waiting yet our board now said we had departed. We think they gave Gatwick
our plane and us theirs so we both had a 1 hour delay fair but no-one was telling us anything. We were
then bussed to the plane and left sitting on board for around 30 / 40m mins with no air con on everyone
was getting hot and frustrated. This airline is shoddy. We are looking to go to Sharm again next year
but will not book with Panorama as they use this airline.
Air Atlanta Europe - by Mick Cooper
26 September 2005
Air Atlanta Europe EUK 460/461 Outbound flight delayed nearly 4 hours - no explanation given? Pre booked
seats with XL.com who assured me that my 82 yr old mother would be given medical seats? - Booking in staff
had no idea what I was on about even when presented with the letter? - although stewardess was helpful and
found us extra leg room seats eventually. Coming back the flight was yet again delayed for around 2 hours
with the aircraft having to go back to the apron and waiting there in the Florida heat for around 90 minutes
with no air con? Again while booking in was told there was no bulkhead seats or extra leg room seats (as
was pre-booked) upon boarding we found loads of seats available and did get a bulkhead seat eventually. Yes
the aircraft was a bit run down as previously pointed out but the staff did their best to accomodate and I
thought the meals were ok too?
I suppose you pay for what you get!
Air Atlanta Europe - by David Hackett
26 September 2005
Arrived at terminal 1 (Manchester) in good time, only to find that you have to check in at the train station
(near terminal 2) checked in and then have to go back to terminal 1 and gate 36. Gate 36 apart from being the
furthest away was probably designed to handle 250+ passengers, not the 400+ of a 747aircraft. Delayed boarding
by 1 hour, when boarded, we sat on the aircraft for another hour, then the well worn excuses start, baggage
missing, passengers missing etc, etc.eventually took off 2.5hrs late, no tea, no coffee, linited soft drinks
available, the aircraft is ready for retirement along with Air Atlanta. Arrived 3 hrs late. If you find that
you are flying with this airline I would seriously advise changing flights or prepare for the inevitable. It
does'nt matter how much you have paid, you are entitled to travel safely and be treated with respect.
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